mmmmmmmmmmmmMONTAUBAN OR NOT: The ancestors of Isaac GARRISON 1732-1838.
Webmaster's Notes: For a number of years some descendants of Isaac Garrison 1732 have claimed that he was
descended from the French de Garrisson family of Montauban, France. The DNA results for a descendant of
Gerrit Segers (b c1620), a Dutchman of New Netherlands, is close enough to the results for descendants of
Isaac to prove that Isaac 1732 was descended from Gerrit Segers. Research by the French family shows that the
early immigrants did not stay in America, but returned to France.
Much of the data below was provided by M John LaBouchere of France. Some of his American sources were in
error and we have attempted to correct the most important items below. Phyllis Miller, author of "The
Garrison-Gerritsen and Segers Descendants of Gerrit Segers", published in the New York Genealogical and
Biographical Record, Vol 124, number 3 and 4, in July and October 1993, has made some comments about M
LaBouchere's paper and they are shown where appropriate. This Webmaster has been so bold as to correct or
question a few of his American facts. To make it clear to the reader which information is from which writer, below I
have posted M LaBouchere's data in black, Ms Miller's in green and mine in blue. All underscoring for emphasis
was added by the Webmaster.
New data from the Montauban archives exclude Isaac Garrison, the father of Revolutionary War soldier Isaac
(1732-1838), as a son of another Isaac, of Montauban, by his wife Jeanne Minvielle.
This is the line of the Montauban Isaac's as now known:
Isaac (I) Garrisson, born Montauban 15 December 1617, makes a will Montauban 1695, died Montauban 24.
Febr. 1701; marr. Montauban 26 July 1642 Jeanne de LaTreille, born Montauban 1629, emigrated to the
United Kingdom, ill in bed in London 1697, died before febr. 1699. Their third son:
Isaac (II) Garrisson, born Montauban 12 July 1651, a barrister of Montauban, emigrated 1685 to the United
Kingdom but returned and died Montauban 1 September 1693; Marr. Corbarieu (between Toulouse &
Montauban) 19 March 1675 Catherine Roumagnac, born Montauban 17 July 1657, died Montauban 1 April
1739, dr. of Jean Roumagnac and Anne Combes. (No family relation of the Col. de Romagnac in Dublin!) In his
will of 1695 his father Isaac (I) cites as his son Isaac (II)'s children only Isaac (III), who has left the country, and
Jacob. The two sons of this marriage:
1. Isaac (III) Garrisson (nicknamed of the Iles), born Montauban 28 December 1676, is out of the country in
1695, naturalised New York 1705 (by British Parliament), merchant of New York 1706, then citizen of and chemist
in Montauban, died Montauban 30 June 1742 (!). He marr. (1) Montauban 24 February 1705 Jeanne
Minvielle, born Montauban 1678, inherited from her uncle Gabriel Minvielle (mayor of New York in 1684) part of
a house on Broadway which she and her coheirs sell in 1706, died Montauban between 6 May 1709 & 20
January 1710, dr. of Pierre Minvielle, merchant of Montauban, by his first wife Françoise Reste.
The couple [Isaac (III) and Jeanne] makes a will in 1705, as they are about to travel to the United Kingdom.
However they are back in Montauban in 1709.
Isaac (III) marr. (2) Montauban 14 October 1710 Jeanne Plasse, widow of Pierre Petit.
He makes another will in 1731 and a third one in 1734, leaving items to various people outside of his own family,
but he makes no mention of any children either in France or in the United States. As all his relatives always
mention in their wills their children living in other countries it simply means that the couple was childless. It is also
not likely that they would have returned to France in 1709 without taking their alleged four year old son with them.
2. Jacob Garrisson, born Montauban 7 February 1683, died ?; marr. Montauban 5 May 1714 Valencie Satur,
who died Montauban (protestant) 9 September 1761, dr. of Thomas Satur (vicar of Montauban in 1672, but who
emigrated in 1683 to London) and Jeanne Garrisson (who emigrated in 1685 and was naturalised in the United
Kingdom in 1686). We know of two children only:
a. Jacques Isaac Garrisson, born Montauban 23 February 1718.
b. Thomas (alias Isaac?) Garrisson-Satur, who inherited 30 Pounds from his aunt Marianne Satur in 1776
and who declared the death of his mother in Montauban in 1761.
This ends the Montauban Isaac line.
The father of the soldier Isaac is supposed to be:
Isaac (IV) Garris(s)on, born New York? about 1706, tanner, establishes himself in Washington Co, Maryland,
landowner in Orange Co, Virginia 1734-'42. then in Frederick Co, Maryland, and later in Surry Co, North
Carolina 1756, buys 1000 acres of land on the Lick Creek and the Potomac, mentioned in the tax rolls 1771,
and with his son Isaac in those of 1772, died Surry Co., N.C. 1778. Marr. Salem Co, NJ 24 March 1727
Elizabeth Lawrence, born Salem 24 May 1712, dr. of William Lawrence, of New York City, has property in east
& west Jersey, across the Hudson opposite Staten Island. They had six sons etc. Comment from Ms Miller: The
more probable Isaac to have m Elizabeth Lawrence was Isaac, son of Isaac and grandson of Jacob d. 1708/9.
However, he was b before 1705 when Jacob made his will. And if it was this Isaac whom is claimed as father of
Isaac 1732, there is not a DNA match with descendants of Gerrit Jansen van Oldenburg.
The eldest son, the soldier Isaac Garrison (born 1732), has a "squirrel" breakfast with some Moravians on the
Potomac, on October 30, 1749, who called him a cousin of their captain Nicolas Garrison, while one Isaac
Garrison (the father?) is called an uncle of their captain in 1756.
About the family of the captain we have the following data:
There were (at least) three brothers (probably of Dutch descent?):
1. Beverly Garrison, marr. (1) Fishkills, Dutchess Co, NY 4 December 1737 Catherine Springsteen, marr. (2)
Elisabeth Nelson. Comment by Ms Miller: Beverly Garrison -- I have never found anything to indicate a
connection of this group with the Long Island and Staten Island groups. I believe John (Garrison) said their DNA
does not match up either. Webmaster's comments: John mentioned by Ms Miller is John Wesley Garrison, Jr,
who with his co-administrator of Garrisons' Compass, Harold Dean Garrison, interprets DNA Results as showing
that Beverly was closely related to the Nehemiah Group.
2. Segar Garrison, mentioned as brother of Lambert in his will.
3. Lambert Garrison, born Scotland ? , sells land on Long Island and goes to Staten Island, buys land there
and is sheriff, census taker 1706, J.P. 1703, Justice of the court 1713, vestryman episcopal ch. 1703; test.
7.10.1723, died bef. 22 May 1725, marr. (1) Gravesend, L.I., N.Y circa 1684 Susanna Morgan, born Staten
island 1669, dr. of Charles Morgan, from Wales, and Catherine Huybert(s?), marr. (2) circa 1715 Mary N, who is
mentioned as his wife in his will. Comments by Ms Miller: Lambert Garrison -- born in Scotland? Most doubtful in
view of his older brother, Seger, being reported as "j.m. van N. Albanien" when he married, as well as the earlier
record of the father, Gerrit Segers. Lambert's second wife was Mary, widow "successively of Nathaniel BRITTON
and ____DUCHAN." See Record 124:230. Not Mary N. Comments by the Webmaster: There is absolutely no
record of any Garrison family in Scotland. George Black's scholarly "Surnames of Scotland" does not list it and
he covers names which originated in other countries. The parish records of Scotland as copied by the LDS lists
only a few events for anyone named Garrison, most of them baptisms and none of them in great enough
number to even suggest a family resident in any parish.
From the first marriage the following sons:
A. Lambert Garrison, born circa 1685, keeps a liquor shop on Staten Island 1717, moved to Elizabeth NJ but
returned 1727, moved to New York, merchant and mariner there, died New York 5 March 1770.
B. Charles Garrison, born 1688, sheriff of Staten Island 1734, in Philadelphia 1743, died after 1750.
C. Daniel Garrison, chr. Staten Island, NY 5 May 1696, died before 1723. Married and had at least two sons,
Daniel and Nathaniel.
D. Jacob Garrison, born circa 1697, to Bucks Co, PA in 1735, then Middlesex Co NJ, died Middlesex Co,
before 8 April 1752.
E. Isaac Garrison, born circa 1698, went to Westchester Co NY circa 1740, lives there 1783, died NY after
1783/4, marr. 27 May 1727 Maria Christopher, born 1710, dr. of Barent Christopher and Anna Catherina
Stillwell. Comment by the Webmaster: I am not aware that there is proof Isaac and Maria moved to Westchester.
From this marriage:
a. Christopher Garrison, chr. Staten Island 21 March 1730, in Bergen Co,, NJ, died 1810, marr. NY
1752/56 Phoebe Vanderbilt, dr. of Jacob Vanderbilt, of Staten Island, will 10 May 1759, of whom offspring.
Comment by the Webmaster: Because of the erroneous claims that my Duplin Co, NC family of
Garrasons/Garrisons descend from Christopher I have researched him fairly thoroughly. I found no record to
prove that any Christopher of NJ (including the one of Monmouth Co) had originated on Staten Island.
b. Isaac ? Garrison, born 1731? Comment by the Webmaster: It is pure speculation when a son Isaac is
listed by anyone. Christopher is the only child of Isaac and Maria for whom a record could be found in Staten
Island church records.
F. Nicolas Garrison, born Richmond 1701, went to sea about 1713, lived Staten Island 1725-'32, went to sea
again in the West-Indies trade. Became involved with Moravians 1737 and became a captain for them until
1757, died Bethlehem, PA 24 September 1781, married [twice] and had children, named a.o. Zeger, Lambert,
Abraham etc.
Ms Miller makes the following comments about the above family connection: The list of Lambert's children is not
in the order given in the 1706 census of Staten Island or in Lambert's will, and does not list the daughters. Also
the son Seger b c 1696 is missed. I believe that his son Isaac was b c1703 and Jacob c1705. The probable
brother, Frederick Garrison, is omitted.
If the father of Isaac 1732 is supposed to be the uncle of the captain then he must be a brother (or a cousin) of
Lambert and therefore also of Segar and of Beverley*, which means that he is probably born about 1660/1680.
He cannot therefore be identical to Isaac (IV) the tanner, who is supposed to be born about 1705.
* See the comments above which state that Beverly was not of the Gerrit Segers Group.
I am unable to make out who the father is of Isaac IV, but he certainly is no son of Isaac III of Montauban.
Perhaps the early New York data give more clues?
Some American genealogists maintain that a brother of Isaac II, Jacob, also has had offspring in the United
States.
This Jacob Garrisson was born in Montauban on 27 May 1645 and became a barrister there.
He marr. Montauban circa 1680 Marie de Comarque-Campagnaud, daughter of Renaud de Comarque, Lord
of Beaumanoir, and Anne-Marguerite de Gervain de Postan de Rocquepiquet.
From this marriage:
1. Isaac Garrisson, christened Montauban 19 March 1681.
2. Jean Garrisson, born Montauban 11 May 1686, probably died young
3. Jacob Garrisson.
It is believed that he and his family took refuge in Frankfurt (Germany) in 1686.
That he would previously have married in the United States about 1672 one Christine Cresson and have
children with her in Brooklyn as from 1673 is not recorded and unlikely, as there is no mention of them in France
and he would not have left his young children behind when returning to Montauban. Comment by Ms Miller: The
Jacob Garrison who m. Christian Cresson is fully accounted for in the GJvO article and has nothing to do with
the Montauban family. Comment by the Webmaster: The "GJvO article" referred to by MS Miller was one she
researched and had published as "The Garrison-Gerritsen Descendants of Gerrit Jansen van Oldenburg alias
Gerrit de Mof". It was the lead article in the January 1993 issue of New York Genealogical & Biographical
Record, Volume 124, Number 1, pages 1-9.
Some sources confuse him with Jacob Garrisson, born Montauban 26 January 1664 as son of Pierre and
Jeanne de Latreille.
If you have comments you want forwarded to M John LaBouchere, please send them to John Wesley Garrison
(john@garrisonsurveying.com) or to the Webmaster (garrason@bellsouth.net).
[Posted 12 Jun 2007; Modified 28 Jul 2007]
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